"if these proposals go through, cases these will no longer be heard. The weak and the poor will no longer be able to challenge the state for these wrongs we know take place. This is not about lawyers' self-interest. This is about government self-interest. Do you think that the government don't have lawyers? You bet they do. They have the most expensive and experienced lawyers around. Do if anyone tells you people can still access justice because people can do these cases on their own, that is wrong. There is no access to justice without access to a lawyer. Reforms based on lies cannot be tolerated."